The last two chapters of part two are of extreme importance to the novel. While chapter ten is VERY intriguing, chapter nine is VERY boring. But while reading chapter nine, we, readers of the world, notice that the Book inside the book relates directly to our world. Either by talking about social classes, war and even other realities. Today, I will be questioning again about our world. Is it really necessary that the United States is always at war? Some claim that its because of oil, economy and other ideas, but what can guarantee us that the United States is at war because it wants “the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger” (Orwell 192) so that it “makes the handing of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival” (Orwell 192)? In The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism, but Emmanuel Goldstein, he states that war is peace, because by taking the population’s attention to the war, people won’t notice other problems. The “proles” will focus in surviving whether than rebelling against a regime. That’s why once in a while, a bomb will explode in their neighborhoods. Is that why the United States is calling so much attention to the Korean “Cold War” that is happening now? Just like Brazil in the 1960’s, when prices started to inflate and the economy was out of hand, they started censuring the use of bikinis, bringing up censorship and oppression so that the society would focus in it. Are there any other major problems that can cause the population to rebel and they want the people to focus in being united with fear whether than united against a government?
I am very impressed, these two chapters were really intriguing and called my attention towards people who Winston has met and may also come to be a Thought Police, like Mr. Charrington. Innumerous questions appeared in my mind after reading chapter 10. What has happened to Julia after being taken away and what will be done to Winston? This is all very strange, since it all happened a night after Winston and Julia have confessed everything to O’Brien. This was maybe one of the first facts that popped up to my mind, if O’Brien himself is not a Thought Police and is pretending to be against the Party, like Mr. Charrington had “indirectly” done. Its amazing how George Orwell created this whole narrative, with the combination of romance between Winston and Julia, governmental dictatorship in the Party, fear to fight against or to die and the ignorance seen in the proles. However everything is a reflection of the Party and their system. When reading this passage, I also thought on how it was during World War I and II, how society were all facing social conflicts. “We are the dead” said Julia, knowing and assuring herself to Winston that all they were doing was going against the system, even when holding different “objectives”. They are dead since the very first moment they saw one another, and they have accepted their death when going after O’Brien. Everything that refers to the Party is very strong. They are strongly committed to do everything to protect the Party, commit torture, death, and physical damage. Mr. Charrington was perfectly characterized as a normal individual, and as he is demonstrated as a Thought Police, all these traits disappear. I was able to feel through the author’s profound description of the scene, Winston and Julia’s emotion. The scene it self was very vivid and full of surprises. On my opinion, this was definitely the “hook” of section two, and I feel like there will be even more mysterious upcoming on section three.
This chapter shows the betrayal of everyone around Winston and Julia, and shows how truly naïve they really were. O’Brien, Mr. Charrington, and the even the room that they rented was watching them and their every move, and simply waiting for the right time to arrest them. This part of the book is disappointing and sad because everything that readers were fearing the most happened, and now there is no way of telling what is going to happen to Winston and Julia. We do not know is they will live or die, or if the Party has some way of making them think differently and changing their identity completely. This chapter also made me wonder if there really is something like the brotherhood or if it is simply a trap, like it was for Winston and Julia, to catch people who do not support Big Brother and who hope for a change in society. These two chapters showed how no matter how hard people in the society try to hide, and try to rebel, they are constantly being watched, even when they believe that they are not. There is no trusting anyone, and there is no way of breaking the unspoken rules. You can live by the government, or you do not live at all.
These two chapters represent within itself an enormous contrast which is very precisely a threat. At the beginning of chapter 9 and 10 Winston is ready to think and plan a new future for Oceania; A life with no laws but freedom and individuality. Yet, Winston’s and Julia’s life as lovers will certainly be terminated as Mr.Charrington discovers them. Mr. Charrington is nothing but the very thought police. Everything is a threat from the government. “We are dead” (Orwell 221). Words repeated by Julia and the thought police behind the screens. ‘’You are dead”. These three words represent what the next chapters will bring. Will Winston die? Will he together with Julia plan a revolution? Can they trust the brotherhood? Thousands of questions came into my mind. We never know who to trust. I trust my family, my friends. However, what about Winston and Julia? They do not belong to a family, they are not meant to feel and to express anything. The only ones that they could trust are the proles, but are they really proles or part of the thought police? Winston and Julia are completely alone, but at the same time they are surrounded with no self-privacy. I don’t think privacy is part of the words in the new speak dictionary. Privacy, one word seven letters one meaning. The action Winston wants and that can't have. Why is the goverment acting this way? Why they don't leave society alone?
Living in Oceania without any privacy, with people spying at all times, with the uncertainty of who is trustable or not, can be very painful. People cannot believe in anybody, since any one can be disguised to catch whoever is committing thought crimes. Sometimes someone who you believe is not trustable, is actually a good person and someone who you believed the whole time to be very trustable is actually part of the Thought Police. That happened to Winston; He completely trusted Mr. Charington; he knew about Julia and Winston’s affair and the room they used to meet, which was on top of his store. Winston never suspected that he could be part of the Thought Police, but one day when “ Mr Charigton came into the room… something had also changed in Mr. Charignton’s appearance. His eyes fell on the fragments of the glass paperweighy” “ Pick up those pieces”, he said sharply “ Winston suddenly realized whose voice it was that he had heard a few moments ago on the telescreen… it occurred to Winston that for the first time in his life he was looking, with knowledge, at a member of the Thought Police” (Orwell 224). This time he was certain that Mr. Charington was a member of the thought police and was aware of all the thought and face crimes he and Julia committed. But why would Winston let so many people know about his life if anybody could be from the Thought police? He told so many things to O’brien, and in my opinion O’brien is also a member of the police and together with Charington, will torture Winston and Julia. The questions O’brien asked in the previous chapter were very suspicious. Why can’t Winston hold his secrets? He already commits so many crimes, that it would be better to hold it for himself instead of letting people he is not sure that are trustable know about his life.
Disappointment Generates Conformity
Chapter’s 9 and 10 shows how disappointment generates conformity. Winston is feeling really secure and confident after he officially joined the brotherhood, and the reader feels this way as well. Throughout the entire novel, Orwell makes the reader have the same feeling that the people in Oceania felt, by making us question everything. It was already expected that they would be eventually caught since although Winston was feeling secure because of that, the fact that he joined the brotherhood had put him in an even larger risk, with more chances of being caught. The couples defeat is clearly transmitted to the reader in chapter four, when we learn the entire world is just like Oceania, but with different totalitarian government name. But, since they were so confident, when they were caught and found out that Mr. Charington was of the thought police and that there was a telescreen always watching them they didn’t react or tried to escape, “Winston suddenly realized whose voice it was that he had heard a few moments ago on the telescreen. Mr. Clarington was still wearing his old velvet jacket, but hs hair, which had been almost white, had turned black.” Winston pessimism before this happening shows that he predicted this could happen, and his emotions made him forget about that possibility. He was surprised when he saw Mr. Charington and this was the first time he was looking directly to a Thought Police member.
We can associate this section of the novel to John reations at “Brave New World”. When John was still at the Savage Reservation he had optimistic views of the world state and thought he would enjoy and admire it. When he arrived at the World State he was disappointed with the control a oppression present there. This intense disappointment made him become satisfied to live at the lighthouse. Just as Winton, John new that he couldn’t do anything to change that, and therefore became conformed.
Will O’Brian try to rescue Winston and Julia? Was the couple’s capture all part of O’Brian’s plan? Was this a great threat for Big Brother, or only a small and common crime?
This is so scary, what is the best way to react whenever getting caught committing a crime, the crime that is hard to control, the crime of thinking. From my point of view, I believe that even though Winston mentions during the second part of the novel, that has nothing to lose, will fight for a better future, he has never thought in his mind how and when would be the moment that he will be caught by the Thought Police. Winston says “The first time in his life he was looking, with knowledge, at a member of Thought Police” (Orwell 224). That passage at the end of section 2, makes me wonder if this will be the last moment that Winston will be seen at the society, if Julia will be the one that will remember that he has been erased from history. If angry towards this unfortunate disappearance, decide to find another individual whose desire is to rebel against this oppressive government, is greater than the fear of death. That is the reason that Winston mentions “with knowledge”, because is from that point that he truly believes that he will have the same ending as Syme. His astonishment towards realizing that the old man names Mr Charington, the one he never thought to be part of the Thought crime, will be the one that will lead to his death. This brings to me a personal question, if in the novel this shows a prove of untrustworthiness towards the character, could we trust anyone in our current world? If we told anyone that I had committed a crime, would anyone tell the police?
Scene 2 – (Movie Prompt)
No fade in; only a cut from the last scene to the wide-hipped lady hanging clothes in her backyard. The camera’s view is roughly the same as Winston’s looking out the window. She is singing loudly with a strained, but soulful and pleasant voice. The ground in her yard looks sandy/dirty and the sky is hazy. One cannot make out any particular clouds, but surely it’s not a plain true blue.
The singing lowers in volume but the subtitles continue to show the lyrics. The shot cuts to behind the bed. The window is visible but only the light coming from outside is visible, no particular view. Winston is lying in bed awake with his arm around Julia, who is resting on his torso. She slowly awakens and doesn’t look him in the eyes but starts talking.
“I’m hungry. Let’s make some more coffee.” The lady continues to sing in the background and Julia walks over to the stove. The camera follows her.
“Damn! There’s no oil in it.” To which Winston replies as he stretches out on the bed. “We can get some from old Charrington” (we just hear his voice, the camera is still on Julia’s back as she is facing the stove.
“The funny thing is I made sure it was full!”
“Well, I was asleep the whole time. Couldn’t tell you what happened ”
They both kneeled on the bed a looked out the window at the old lady. The camera is now behind them so we can see their shoulders and the backs of the heads. We can see out the window clearly now. She occasionally interrupted the song to reach for a higher hanging wire or make some mental observation about the particular piece of clothing she was holding.
“She’s beautiful” said Winston.
“She’s a meter across the hips, easily” Julia replied with no jealousy
“That is her style of beauty.”
The overhead camera pans away from the lady hanging clothes and shows view of most of the prole neighborhood. Some hope-inspiring piano music beings and builds in intensity as the narrator begins:
“The birds sang, the proles sang. the Party did not sing.”
As he says this, shots of other ladies around the world, people talking on the streets in other countries, and other couples waking up to birds singing, fade from one to the next.
“All round the world, in London and New York, in Africa and Brazil, and in the mysterious, forbidden lands beyond the frontiers, in the streets of Paris and Berlin, in the villages of the endless Russian plain, in the bazaars of China and Japan—everywhere stood the same solid unconquerable figure, made monstrous by work and childbearing, toiling from birth to death and still singing. Out of those mighty loins a race of conscious beings must one day come. You were the dead, theirs was the future. But you could share in that future if you kept alive the mind as they kept alive the body, and passed on the secret doctrine that two plus two make four.”
The shots continue to transition and eventually return to London, where proles are talking and behind them is a wall with a poster of Big Brother and a hate message to Goldstein. The final shot is once again of the lady hanging clothes, but from a different angle, so we can see the back of Mr. Charrington’s shop from outside; Winston and Julia are looking out the window and we can barely make out their faces.
The music stops. Now we are seeing through a camera in the room, which is close to Winston’s and Julia’s faces and doesn’t show the outside view. The light is still hitting their faces though. (Winston is closer to the camera). Winston says: “We are the dead. Juila repeats “We are the dead”
A semi-human extremely deep and metallic voice says “You are the dead” twice. The second time more slowly. Suddenly, as if a flash-bang had gone off, the shot becomes saturated with light and most of the sound is overpowered by the constant high pitched note. The room starts shaking rhythmically from the boot steps coming up the stairs. The picture falls off the wall revealing a telescreen and as the door opens to reveal huge guys in black high tech suits and helmets, the paperweight shatters on the ground (cut to a shot of the broken paperweight on the floor, almost bouncing with each step of the agents). We barely hear the instructions by the thought police agents and the shot fades in to white.
Question: In what circumstance do people take action knowing the outcome will lead to their demise? Is love required to do suck a thing? Is love motivating Winston and Julia? Or is it just weariness from the party routine?
Similarly, is it possible that the patients of the Warden in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” foresaw the disintegration of their community when they began to be increasingly rebellious? Did they know that the night awake with drugs and prost
Chapter 9 and 10 were very compelling and intriguing. However, it made me completely confused. What was clear before was now uncertain. Goldstein book did answer many questions I had about the system; it explained really well how the party work, but it also left something unsaid, for example, how does the health system works, or where did the people that the thought police get go to. Did they kill the people after torturing them?
The book inside the book really frightened me. It made me scare of my own society, because we live similarly to what was said. WAR IS PEACE has the same methodology as USA’s. They always look for a place to interfere, create a war, to keep economy stable. You see, today USA is not involved in a serious war, thus, it is facing a serious economic crisis. Brazil is another example for a passage of the book. “A hierarchical society was only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance” (Orwell, 190).in other words, power is only possible with an ignorant and poor population, because they will always believe what the government is doing. In Brazil, the minority is poor, thus ignorant. So, Lula, our ex-president maintained power over the people, making people listen what they wanted to hear. People supported him, but he didn’t do most of what he promised. Are we living like the society of 1984, somehow?
What made me most confused was the fact that they got the people to torture them so that they could understand people’s mind. If they don’t advance in technology, they will never get that clear. So does that mean that the thought police are scientists? This was unclear to me. How could they ever find out what people were thinking? They are treating humans like animals, testing them.
Chapter 10 was the complete opposite of chapter 9. Instead of being boring and repetitive, chapter 10 was totally mystifying and creepy. I would never imagine that Mr. Charrington was part of the thought police. The question I ask myself is: if he knows the past and knows that the government control history, why doesn’t he go against the government? Does he really want to control everyone or he is forced to do it by Big Brother? I can’t understand, this does not enter my mind!!!!
“The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed” (Orwell 191).
This quote interested me because of its relationship with our world. The way the Party manipulates citizens into the never ending cycle of production and destruction is inhumane. While people could be creating new products and innovating, people are bonded into producing objects that will be wasted in war. Just like in Oceania war is used by countries in our world use war as a form of busting its economy, it is an acceptable way of destroying products that have been created. While the governments spend money on food, shelter, weapons, destroying these equipments at war, many people die of hunger and diseases, a problem that could be solved without war. Just as Goldstein’s book explained it is a simple way that people accept the destruction of materials, and just like that we also do not complain if products are wasted in war. However, are the governments manipulating us emotionally like the Party is doing to their citizens or simply economically? As I read Goldstein’s explanations I was intrigued because the war was really bringing peace to the Party, that constant war created helped them economically and emotionally and despite products being destroyed people are still satisfied. And as I read this I was also worried with the clear connection with my reality, this quote clearly shows something that occurs in our world, where we only focus of the human loss and not on the material loss.
Where there is equal there can be sanity . Sooner or later it would happen: strength would change into consciousness. The proles were immortal; you could not doubt it when you looked at that valiant figure in the yard. In the end their awakening would come. And until that happened, thought it might be a thousand years, they would stay alive against all odds, like birds passing on from body to body the vitality which the party did not share and could not kill.(Winston, pg. 220)
This passage shows the amount of believe Winston Smith has with proles, and the purity in comparison with the inner party. He believes that sanity will only reigns were equality has taken place. Once more Orwell claims that Winston wants to help the people not only himself, he truly believes in a better, equal and conscious society. Independent of him been alive the revolution is coming and the proles are going to rebel. If the proles unite themselves, the party cannot kill everyone and a massive change should happen in the regime. We could also see how Winston agrees to Emmanuel Goldstein rules and commandments. He is also pessimist in this quote when he said, “it might take 1000 years”, supposing that he might fail on uniting the proles. He is not assuming the responsibility on overthrowing the party, but stating that in a near future society might accomplish such important goal. Winston also knew that the inner party only had basic and superficial overview of the slogan, “War is peace”, when he said, “A peace that is truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This although the vast majority of the party members understand it only in the shallower sence-is the inner party meaning of the party slogan: War is peace”(Winston, pg. 199). After the inner party decided to change the Enemy of the state to Eastasia, Winston discovered their fragility. They made the proles seem stupid because all the protest was being done against Eurasia. So that in fact could become a danger for the party and a chance for Winston to change history and help the proles restore life.
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